强烈鄙视B2B为了提高询盘数量,自己内部疯狂假造询盘(假询盘和垃圾骗子询盘收集贴)

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强烈鄙视阿里巴巴,为了提高寻盘数量,自己内部疯狂假造寻盘,现在越来越火了,为了提高寻盘数量,他们内部自己乱招寻盘,发我们。看多了大家都明白,早上又收到他们自己造的寻盘了,他们阿里的人还真把我们这些外贸业务员到傻子了,早上我们刚上班就来埃及的寻盘,造寻盘也不放点脑子,我们8点埃及几点呀,现在就想骂阿里的内部员工,他们只为了自己的业绩,根本不会为我们商家考虑。我们做电子商务不是看寻盘的数量,我想你们应该是从寻盘数量上出发,以为到时候某公司老板说没效果就有借口说什么那你看看你们寻盘有多少,应该是你们业务员操作上的问题什么什么的,这样就好继续签约了。做为业务员的我不是怕老板说我们操作有问题,这些我们根本不在乎,因为我们自己心理明白就够了,你们可以欺骗某些公司的老板,但你们永远欺骗不了我们外贸业务员。我们看的不是寻盘数量,而是寻盘的质量。早上的假寻盘和以前的一样如下:Dear Frank Chen,

You have received an inquiry from a free member on Alibaba. com. This is the first inquiry from this sender.

Mr muhamed ali is interested in your company.

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Good day
Pls urgently
We are very very interested for your products, pls sent me your email Necessary because we will sent to you all our request

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个人最近的总结(通过无数次同样的询盘和回复)询盘标题和内容大致一样,都是We are very very interested for your products, pls sent me your email Necessary because we will sent to you all our request 或更早点有“Pls sent your mail ,Because we will sent to you L.O.I. and offer request”就随便改了下个人信息,注册地和实际IP故意写不一样,实际IP他们内部现在一般编造的都是埃及,邮箱都是不存在的假造雅虎邮箱(内部员工不像我们要注册,要邮箱审核,所以邮箱可以随便造)。
们假造邮箱的地址一般都和假造公司名称一致的,邮箱前缀就是假造的公司名称。
这类内部假造的询盘,最突出的就是说自己很急,需要我们告诉他们邮箱,然后发他们的需求到我们邮箱,标题一般都是对我们产品干兴趣之类的。但当我们回复过去的时候,都是马上的退信邮件。 这推测绝对100%是正确的,
大家看下我最近的总结就知道了我在博客上有收集最近的:http://chenzcforever.blog.163.com/blog/static/5320126220091016111117698/     相信大家看了后就知道了,因为我们大家都每隔几天收到同样的内部假造寻盘。

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We are very very interested for your products, pls sent me your Necessary email because we will sent to you all our request

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希望大家把这帖子继续努力顶上去,让所有人都知道  

我发这帖子的目的不是要贬低阿里的信誉,主要是想通过大家的努力让这些B2B平台提供商多从我们厂家的利益出发,不要以这种内部造假询盘数量来到达说自己的效果多好,询盘每月有多少什么的来为自己做推广或是辩护。

本来垃圾/广告询盘就够让我们这些业务员头疼了,你们做为平台提供商只知道从自己角度出发,竟然还造假询盘,这样不是很浪费我们业务员的宝贵时间和精力。对于老业务员还好点,一般都可以自己识别了,但对于外贸新手来说,你们简直就是欺骗糟蹋人才,浪费他们的时间,削弱它们的信心……严重的以至她们转行不做外贸,真是可恨。

所以我叫大家把垃圾,广告骗子询盘,假询盘都发上来,这样新手一搜索就知道了,也就不必浪费他们的时间在这些垃圾身上

在论坛里曾经看到有业务员说阿里客服把所有责任推到她身上,甚至叫她们老板换业务员,看了真是无语呀。

之,不管阿里, 环球,还是中国制造等B2B平台都存在内部造假询盘的情况,大家心理也很明白,论坛上关于这样的帖子到处可见。关于选择平台 不能光看看知名度,要看适合不适合自己的产品,还有公司的资质等方面综合考虑。 对于我现在做的产品阿里我还是会选择的,但希望他们不要继续造这样的假询盘了,这样浪费大家的时间和精力,我宁愿没询盘也不希望看到一个假询盘。

因为对于像我们这样主要通过平台做外贸的企业来说平台是唯一的工具了,展会什么毕竟只是一时的,有些小公司也负担不起经常去展会。

现在想想B2B现今的发展趋势真是让人感到悲哀呀,希望阿里, 环球,还是中国制造等B2B平台做下整顿,不要为所谓的询盘数量做恶性竞争了,这样到头来害的不只是消费者,最重要的是你们多年来积累的信誉。

最近发现一新骗子询盘,Good Evening,
We would appreciate if you can quote for us the prices of your cables brands that you can produce, to Apapa Port, Lagos. Hope you can help us produce and give us the appropriate prices for this products.
Samples will sent, but still would love to see your own also for quick order.
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等你回复后,他们回自动回复,叫大家去他们给的连接下所谓的他们要采购的产品,其实里面就是病毒木马类的,有的也是通过点击增加自己收入的 :
Good Morning,

Thank you for your responce again in this matter. Please download and view our sample copies at https://www.filesanywhere.com/fs/v.aspx?v=8971648c5d676e76a3a2
Please do view and tell us if this can be carried out before we place our order.

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多如牛毛呀,一个月不知道要收到多少个,希望大家帮忙我小弟这贴顶到底(大家也把自己收到的阿里内部造的假寻盘和垃圾寻盘都发上来,以免有的人都不知道被蒙鼓里,我们老总也一直在做阿里巴巴),最好有假寻盘就发上来

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Dear Authorized,
We are very interested in your cables,Please sent to us your catalogue(for all type) and price list. Visit our website for our imported products www.searchnewproducts.com
Also inform to us about following questions;
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2.Payments terms
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这次就先发这些了,老的一不再翻出来了,不过以后保证收到一个在这里发一个,希望大家也把自己收到的阿里内部假寻盘发上来
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我之前两天没有询盘啊,今天上午打开电脑时候也没有询盘,11点左右时候,一下收到两个询盘,天哪,怎么可能呢.时差啊!
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是呀,我宁愿一个月就几个询盘,也不愿意看带内部假造的寻盘
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以后自己有碰到这样的情况都可以发这里呀,大家好参考,以至浪费时间
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现在到年底了他们都忙着想办法让客户续约,最常用就是是说什么19800的明年取消,或说明年价格多少拉,有的说涨多少,有的说没了,这些都是他们业务员为了自己拿提成忽悠客户的,现在的B2B真让人失望,都开始内部造假询盘了,阿里,中国制造,环球都这样,没想法,鄙视他们,他们眼里只有钱
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哈哈哈哈  你可以去买彩票了
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我也在想,是内部搞鬼,最近这一星期收到了好几封发消息地址是中国的,但都是地址,公司都写外国人发的..

好假.
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Contact Name:Mr npk plus
Company:Npkplus
Address: 25225 Sw 212 Ave Homestead
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电话号码: 中国的手机...后面几位删了..

Telephone:1-305-246 XXXX
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顺便说一下,按他的电话,就刚刚,我试打一下...更牛.

对不起,您拨打的电话已停机.
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我也收集到LZ 那样的类似问题,什么,i intrested in your product(s) .等等。
记得有一段时间我热血来潮,想要好好的做出一番业绩的时候,我就暗暗告诉自己,我把所有询盘上的电话通通打一遍,我就不信找到一个印象客户。
后来我发现,是我想得太简单了,阿里里面的询盘的电话,很多要么打不通,其中有一个,打过去,我问他是不是XX公司的,对方说,这个是私人电话。没有我要找的那个人。呵呵,可笑!:L
可见,阿里发过来 的询盘很多都是内部伪造出来的,为了让那些老板看到他们的平台所带给我们的所谓“效果”,而不择手段,真是可耻至极!!!
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是啊 ,前几天还发我一个南斯拉夫的询盘,
再就是两个拉脱维亚的,你阿里很牛啊 ,世界每个角落你都做到了
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